The following is an interview transcript (excerpt):

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Host: For me, VR is one of the most fascinating aspects of technology today. You know, when I played that game with you, we were fencing each other. I think this can be applied to a lot of different things right now.

Like there's a lot of opportunities, not just for pure entertainment, but also education. There are a lot of things you can learn skills through AR or VR that will greatly improve your ability to do those things in the real world. I mean, it's kind of like a cheat code in a lot of ways.

And it’s a VR game too. I don't know if you have ever played in a sandbox. Have you ever played in a sandbox?

Do you know Sandbox VR? Do you know what that company is? Yes. You go to a warehouse, put on a haptic feedback vest, and shoot zombies, and I was so addicted. I'm so addicted. This is my favorite thing. There is job seekers data a thing called Death Manor. That was by far the best game. You have a shotgun and zombies are coming at you.



Mark Zuckerberg: Yeah, no, the My Zombie game is Arizona Sunshine. Oh, what is that? Oh, it's, it can be multiplayer, and there's a horde mode where you can go in, you have four friends, and there's waves of zombies coming.

Host: Is that on Oculus? I have to try it.

Mark Zuckerberg: That's mine, it's healing. You just wait until they come to you.

Host: How long will it take for you to develop a full-body haptic feedback suit? Oh my god. Hmm...is this possible?

Mark Zuckerberg: It's possible. But I think there are other more important things to deliver. So I think stepping back a little bit, how we think about the goal here is to convey a real sense of presence. There is no technology today that can make you feel like you are actually there with another person. You’re interacting with them through your phone, watching through this little window that takes you away from everything. The magic of augmented and virtual reality is that you actually feel that sense of presence, as if you are really there with the other person.